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How to get discovered in AI search

Thursday, 17 September 2026 · 3 min read · Listen to the episode ↗

In this episode, Liam Dunn explores the transformative effects of AI search on marketing strategies, emphasizing the need for answer engine optimization (AEO) and generative engine optimization (GEO) as traditional SEO becomes less effective. He discusses the decline in organic traffic due to users relying on large language models for information, complicating user engagement measurement.

Liam Dunn discusses the transformative impact of AI search on marketing strategies, highlighting the importance of both answer engine optimization (AEO) and generative engine optimization (GEO). He emphasizes that while search engine optimization (SEO) is still relevant, its tactical focus has shifted significantly due to the rise of AI search, which has altered user behavior and engagement metrics.

Dunn points out that many users now rely on large language models (LLMs) for information, leading to a decline in organic traffic to websites. This shift complicates the measurement of user engagement, as businesses must now cater to both human visitors and AI agents. Ben Moore adds that understanding the mechanics of AI visibility and tracking citations in answer engines is crucial for businesses navigating this new landscape.

The episode delves into the inherent randomness of LLMs, including floating point errors and temperature randomness, which affect how responses are generated. AI search algorithms often use majority voting systems to reduce hallucinations, indicating a consensus approach across different models. Marketers are encouraged to optimize prompts for AI search visibility, as traditional SEO methods are becoming less effective.

Dunn highlights the long tail distribution of queries in AI search, presenting unique opportunities for businesses, while stressing that relevancy and authority remain vital for visibility. The relationship between retrieval and citation is complex, necessitating a shift in marketing strategies to ensure effective communication and brand recognition.

Brand sentiment plays a significant role in AI perception, with the name of a brand influencing its reception, especially if it has negative associations. Citation time optimization involves assessing consensus, factual accuracy, sentiment, and co-occurrence, although implementing these factors poses challenges for marketers.

The evolving industry of AI visibility requires brands to adopt comprehensive strategies that prioritize relevancy, consensus, and consistency. Companies that excel in marketing typically have a well-defined ideal customer profile (ICP) and tailored messaging for specific audiences. Building a presence on social media, particularly YouTube, is essential for enhancing AI visibility due to its connection with Google.

Customer advocacy is crucial for establishing consensus in the SaaS industry, while consistent messaging across platforms is vital for brand recognition in AI search. The content's quality is more important than engagement metrics for retrieval in AI search, although the relevance of these metrics may change over time.

The overlap between user searches and content relevance is critical for successful retrieval on platforms like Reddit, where complexities in AI model interactions persist. Brand perception is increasingly shaped by third-party sources in LLMs, shifting the focus from discoverability to agent accessibility in AI search.

AI agents are evolving to take actions on websites rather than just retrieving information, marking a transition to a read-write environment. Clients are reportedly achieving significant conversions through command line interfaces, reflecting the changing nature of marketing strategies as awareness of AI systems grows.

As training cycles for AI models shorten, the frequency of updates and retraining increases, making human signals more valuable in the evolving landscape of AI content generation. While influencing training data remains challenging, it is becoming increasingly important as AI systems, including Google, work to prevent model collapse and address concerns like the dead internet theory. OpenAI is also focusing on verifying text through third-party sources to enhance content authenticity.

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