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JRE MMA Show #185 with Ethyn Ewing

Wednesday, 2 September 2026 · 4 min read · Listen to the episode ↗

Joe Rogan talks with Ethyn Ewing about his UFC debut against Malcolm Wellmaker, accepted on roughly 48 hours’ notice despite moving up from bantamweight to featherweight. Ewing discusses building a style that combines pressure with precise striking and distance control, and how two early professional losses prompted a personal reset and a 10-fight winning streak. They also examine injury risks, sparring choices, and knowing when not to fight.

Ethyn Ewing’s UFC debut against Malcolm Wellmaker showed the composure and technical striking Joe Rogan praised, despite Ewing taking the fight on roughly 48 hours’ notice. Ewing had normally competed at bantamweight, but met the powerful Wellmaker at featherweight. He had already stayed in fight-camp mode through opponent withdrawals and fought for the A1 Combat title on November 7, winning by first-round knockout at about 1:30. After a week off that included drinking and unrestricted eating, he accepted the MSG opportunity because he felt he could not pass it up.

Ewing wants to use precision, angles, head movement, and distance control to hit without getting hit and extend his career. He described starting with an Iowa-style wrestling-pressure approach, then leaning too far toward finesse; now he wants to combine pressure with technical control. He said fighters can become less composed when they hesitate, but he is not looking to turn fights into brawls. The discussion stressed that sparring should expose weaknesses and teach fighters, not become a contest to dominate every session. Ewing said that can be difficult when fighters fear sparring partners will think they can beat them.

His record reflects a change in approach after early setbacks. Ewing went 6-0 as an amateur without fully living a fighter’s lifestyle, then said his first two professional losses forced him to reassess both fighting and life outside the gym. He had been drinking, partying, smoking, and not being the best partner; after refocusing, he replaced those habits with more positive ones and built a 10-fight winning streak. He also said mental preparation differs by person. His boxing coach, Dale Roybal, works with him on psychology, spirituality, and emotional control, sometimes before warm-ups, and Ewing credited Eric Paulson with helping shape his mindset.

Injury management is a recurring concern for Ewing. A right meniscus tear after he returned from college in 2017 derailed his wrestling, and he said he regrets having the detached portion shaved away during a scope because the knee still causes problems. During triangle-choke inversions, the lateral meniscus can catch, and he straightens his leg to pop it back into place. He also described the area being put in a severe position during his second professional fight, when he rolled through a heel hook, felt his ankle pop twice, and tapped. Before the April Estivon fight, his meniscus popped during light sparring with heavyweight Callum Bisping; he stopped sparring with heavyweights afterward. Rogan recommended training with partners near a fighter’s own weight, with about 10 pounds heavier as his maximum, and both emphasized that fighters must speak up if something feels wrong even when training looks sharp.

Ewing said he prefers competing when ready rather than risking an injury that could cause a loss and damage his record. The speakers noted that MMA’s grappling and striking create more injury risks than boxing, making a capable team important for managing schedules and deciding when to fight. Ewing’s heaviest weight is about 175 pounds, or roughly 178 when full of food; he has cut to around 150 and would prefer to compete at 149, 148, or 145. One recent cut required losing 11 pounds in one night. He said lower sauna temperatures, longer sessions, and cooling between sessions have helped, and he considers overheating more dangerous than dehydration. Rogan also argued that frequent cage experience can help fighters handle an event’s buildup, but only if they are not accumulating serious damage.

The broader discussion contrasted technical craft with power and volume. Rogan called Deontay Wilder’s one-punch power “the great eraser,” while cautioning that power can become a crutch if it discourages work on fundamentals. Max Holloway was praised for changing pace, staying in motion, and sustaining output into the fifth round against Justin Gaethje; Ilia Topuria was praised for calm distance control, a strong jab, technical striking, and one-punch power. The speakers said Holloway suffered two fractured orbital bones in the Gaethje fight and warned against rushing back after serious damage, while acknowledging that only Holloway knows the full extent. They also questioned the wisdom of Conor McGregor returning after five years away to face an active, accomplished opponent, stressing that past success does not remove the need for preparation, commitment, and recovery.

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