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"We Want to Be Bigger Than the CME" | Kalshi's John Wang

Tuesday, 1 September 2026 · 3 min read · Listen to the episode ↗

In this episode, John Wang of Kalshi outlines the company's ambitious goal to surpass the CME in valuation, aiming for a three-digit billion dollar range. He highlights Kalshi's impressive 90% market share in crypto prediction markets and its commitment to a regulated approach in the U.S. Wang discusses the launch of a pro interface for perpetual futures and the integration of new asset classes, emphasizing Kalshi's focus on institutional growth and market integrity while navigating legal challenges and expanding internationally.

John Wang discusses Kalshi's significant positioning in the crypto industry, highlighting that the company holds a 90% market share in its crypto operations despite not being an on-chain entity. Kalshi aims to create user-friendly products accessible to non-experts and is committed to a regulated approach in the U.S., having established the first regulated perpetual futures exchange in the country.

Kalshi is actively pursuing international markets, collaborating with regulators and brokers in Canada and Brazil to integrate prediction markets. Partnerships with WealthSimple and XP enhance its global reach. Wang compares Kalshi to Polymarket, noting that while they share similarities, their product focuses differ significantly.

With a team of around 180, Kalshi operates at a rapid product development pace compared to larger competitors. The company has faced legal challenges, including a lawsuit against the CFTC to legalize prediction markets. Wang acknowledges that offshore prediction markets may attract crypto-native users due to easier onboarding processes.

Kalshi is focused on competing in the perpetual futures trading space, believing it can match the product experience of existing crypto platforms. The launch of a pro interface for perpetuals, along with competitive fees and liquidity, positions Kalshi favorably. The approval of a Bitcoin perpetual contract allows the company to self-certify additional crypto asset perps.

While Kalshi's leverage limits are lower than those of offshore platforms, most traders operate within these constraints. The company anticipates becoming a leader in liquidity and product experience for real-world asset perpetuals, with plans to expand into non-crypto asset classes like gold and silver. Kalshi is also rolling out incentive programs to attract traders and enhance user experience by integrating its perps and predictions products.

Wang emphasizes that Kalshi's platform supports large traders with high liquidity and has implemented measures to prevent insider trading, crucial for maintaining market integrity. He notes that insider trading regulations in stock markets are based on market structure considerations, and Kalshi has defined its own standards for managing insider trading risks. Politicians and politically associated individuals are prohibited from trading on Kalshi's political markets, although Wang acknowledges that no solution is entirely foolproof against insider trading in prediction markets.

Wang articulates Kalshi's vision to surpass the CME in valuation, aiming for a three-digit billion dollar range. He stresses the importance of a regulatory framework for prediction markets, advocating for clarity and protection for traders while recognizing that some insider trading can attract valuable information. Kalshi differentiates itself by maintaining direct relationships with traders and adopting a regulated approach, focusing on institutional growth.

Currently, Kalshi's crypto prediction markets account for 20 to 30% of total exchange volume, while perpetual futures are generating more volume than prediction markets. Wang anticipates that commodities will represent another 20% of exchange volume, with commodities markets expected to grow at a rate of 100X shortly after launch.

Kalshi is diversifying its offerings beyond sports, introducing new non-sports categories like perpetuals and political markets. The platform is also creating indices for prediction markets to analyze political developments, positioning itself as more than just a sports betting platform. Wang notes that prediction markets are often viewed as retail instruments, which may limit their appeal to large financial institutions.

To address institutional demands, Kalshi is working on adding margin features for event contracts and exploring the integration of OTC structured products to expand its total addressable market. Kalshi has carved out a niche in focusing on perpetuals, institutional options, and growing compute and commodities markets, claiming to be ten times larger than Polymarket in crypto volumes. Wang acknowledges past competition with Polymarket but suggests that the intensity of this competition has diminished in recent months.

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