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#2531 - Forrest Galante

Tuesday, 28 July 2026 · 4 min read · Listen to the episode ↗

Wildlife biologist and television host Forrest Galante joins to cover a wide range of topics rooted in field observation and conservation. Galante explains why a documented melanistic mountain lion has never existed, describes Ventara in India as the world's largest privately funded wildlife rescue center, and discusses how Texas private collections hold more tigers than the entire wild population of roughly 5,000.

Forrest Galante, a wildlife biologist and television host, states there has never been a documented melanistic mountain lion, including no captive births and no road kills. The trail cam photo circulating online showing a black cat is real but depicts a jaguar or black leopard, not a mountain lion, and melanistic jaguars and leopards still display rosette patterns visible beneath their black coats.

Galante just returned from India where he participated in elephant rescues with Ventara, described as the world's largest wildlife rescue and rehabilitation center, privately funded by Indian billionaire Anantam Bonney. Ventara has a hydrotherapy pool the size of a large building for elephants with arthritis or injured limbs and uses both Eastern and Western medicine. Galante said the facility makes the San Diego Zoo look like a roadside attraction. He noted that elephants are not designed for carrying riders and show deformities, bedsores, and hip issues from a lifetime of being ridden, and that the hardest physical challenge for elephants is not carrying riders but walking on concrete, as their soft padded feet are damaged by hard ground combined with added weight.

The wild tiger population currently stands at approximately 5,000, up significantly from a low of around 400, but private collections in Texas alone hold more tigers than exist in the entire wild worldwide. Galante noted that giant pandas are strikingly absent from China's classical cultural record, with no appearances in Tang poetry, Song paintings, Yuan drama, Ming novels, or Qing literature before the late twentieth century, and that the panda's status as a Chinese national treasure appears to be a post-1949 invention. Pandas are taxonomic carnivores with a short digestive tract and gut microbiome of a meat eater despite subsisting on bamboo, which has almost no nutritional value, and Galante described them as among the dumbest animals in the world, arguing they behave as though they are trying to go extinct.

Colossal's recreated dire wolves include two males named Romulus and Remus and a female named Khaleesi. The animals weigh approximately 200 pounds and developed two unexpected physical traits: thick white fur and a mane resembling a lion's mane. Critics argue the animals are essentially gray wolves with dire wolf genes expressed rather than true dire wolves, though Galante notes the expressed genes were obtained from ancient dire wolf remains. Short-faced bears were estimated at 11 to 12 feet in length, roughly double the size of a polar bear, and theorized to have been capable of running 50 miles per hour, with claw marks and dens attributed to them still visible in caves in Missouri.

Residue found in clay pots from ancient Greek ritual sites associated with the Eleusinian mystery schools contained ergot, a fungus chemically related to LSD through a shared lysergic acid ergoline core. In 1951 in Pont-Saint-Esprit, France, 250 people were affected by a mass poisoning event, 50 were committed to asylums, and 7 died. The official French investigation blamed ergot-contaminated rye flour, but journalist HP Albarelli Jr. published a 2009 book arguing the incident was a covert LSD field test run jointly by CIA MK Ultra and the US Army Special Operations Division at Fort Detrick, citing a declassified CIA document. Skeptics counter that ergot produces gangrene-like vasoconstriction consistent with the observed symptoms and that baking bread would degrade LSD.

Galante described a case in the Kabora-Bassa Delta region of the Zambezi Valley where Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation mosquito nets distributed for malaria prevention were used for fishing instead because recipients were starving. The nets' fine mesh collapsed the juvenile fish population in a major freshwater fishery, creating widespread hunger in a previously food-sufficient population. Rogan described Gates as having rebuilt his public image through donations of hundreds of millions of dollars to major media organizations following the United States versus Microsoft antitrust lawsuit, and said Gates had dinners with Jeffrey Epstein over several years hoping Epstein would raise money for global health philanthropy, but Epstein never delivered on promised donations.

Galante argued that the Congo and the Amazon are the most likely places where large undiscovered animals still exist, but noted that visiting the relevant parts of the Congo would likely be a death sentence for outside researchers. He described the Bondo ape as most likely a real but isolated population of larger, more aggressive chimpanzees rather than a distinct unknown species. He is working with a group called Mammal Watching deploying trail cameras in Western Papua and Papua New Guinea searching for thylacine, and noted that thylacine legends are becoming fewer and further between over generational time, suggesting any remaining population may be dying off. Galante challenged purely laboratory-based scientific authority through the example of a world-leading shark expert who had published 50 papers on a species but had never seen one alive, had never been in the ocean, and did not know how to swim, arguing that field observation must accompany laboratory data for genuine authority on an animal.

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