Grok 4.5 is a bigger deal than Fable
Friday, 10 July 2026 · 4 min read · Listen to the episode ↗
Nick from Orgo argues that Grok 4.5 is the most significant model upgrade his Hermes and OpenClaude agent stack has seen, offering intelligence comparable to Anthropic Opus 4.8 at roughly one tenth the cost and ten to fifteen times the speed of Fable for equivalent tasks. In a live demo, his Dewey agent completed a full landing page build in about 40 seconds while a simultaneously running GPT 5.6 agent was still processing.
Grok 4.5 is described by Nick, who builds on Hermes and OpenClaude through his company Orgo, as the most significant model upgrade his stack has seen. He positions it as offering intelligence comparable to Anthropic Opus 4.8 at roughly one tenth the cost and ten to fifteen times the speed of Fable for comparable tasks. He purchased the 300 dollar per month Super Grok plan immediately at launch and had already consumed approximately 76 percent of his allocation by the time of recording, which he frames not as a warning but as evidence of how much more work becomes possible at lower cost and higher speed.
Nick's core argument is that the real unlock of Hermes and OpenClaude is treating the agent as a genuine AI co-founder with access to all tools rather than as a simple automation layer. He distinguishes this from pre-AI deterministic pipelines, which he says already handled automation, and argues that giving an agent more connectors is where meaningful capability emerges. Grok 4.5, in his view, takes that entire stack to the next level overnight. His own Hermes agent, named Dewey, runs on Grok 4.5 and has its own computer, email address, phone number, debit card, and Obsidian vault, connected to tools including Composio, X MCP, Idea Browser MCP, web search, and Perplexity search.
In a live demonstration, Dewey completed a full landing page build in approximately 40 seconds while a simultaneously running GPT 5.6 Soul agent was still processing. Nick preferred the Grok 4.5 output on both design and copy grounds, though he attributed part of the quality to the Idea Browser MCP rather than the model alone. He also noted that Grok 4.5 is more token-efficient than the new OpenAI Codex models, which he described as token-hungry. GPT-5.5 could take up to 30 minutes per task, a pace he characterized as frustrating for clients. He framed Grok 4.5 as a cheap Ferrari compared to prior models described as an expensive Toyota Camry.
Dewey autonomously identified a managed AI employee operating system built on Orgo and Hermes as the top startup idea surfaced from the Idea Browser MCP. Nick compared the opportunity to marketing agencies that learned Facebook and Google ads in 2013 and 2014, and suggested targeting a specific vertical such as HVAC rather than competing in the broad prosumer market. He estimated such a service could charge 5000 dollars per month per client. The landing page Dewey generated autonomously included a 14-day pilot at 1500 dollars one time, 2500 dollars per month for a managed seat, and 6500 dollars per month for three seats. Nick said he plans to release a free 60-minute episode within two weeks explaining how to build this managed AI employee business model from scratch.
Tasks demonstrated during the session included building a website, constructing an offer, writing a cold email outreach sequence with ICP and full sequence architecture, making calls on leads, and sending emails via agent mail. An AI agent connected to Google Docs via Composio autonomously created the cold email campaign document and shared a link through Telegram. The agent also produced a viral-style thumbnail pack by referencing the speaker's face, existing channel style, outlier videos in the niche, and vid IQ design rules, and autonomously created a project URL inside the Idea Browser MCP and ran full idea research without being explicitly instructed to do so.
A personal finance influencer on X was given access to a Hermes agent built on Grok 4.5 that read his direct messages without any manual pasting of context, and reacted with strong enthusiasm, describing the experience as unlike anything he had seen before. Nick decided to pilot the agent stack as a client reporting employee demo for agencies rather than selling AI employees in a general framing. MCPs are characterized as providing vertical-specific context that LLMs alone lack and as representing a startup opportunity in their own right.
Nick argued that people who can supply ambition and ideas can now build without needing technical implementation skills. Both speakers predicted that models will continue to get cheaper, faster, and smarter, meaning anyone who configures an agent stack now will capture immediate value from future upgrades such as Grok 4.7 or 5.0 without additional setup work. Molt Book, a social media platform for open Claude agents, was created after Claude launched and acquired by Meta within approximately one week, offered as evidence of how quickly the gap between idea and implementation is closing.
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