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Why Crypto Options Are Still In The Early Days w/ Nick Forster

Sunday, 22 March 2026 · 3 min read · Listen to the episode ↗

Nick Forster discusses the nascent crypto options market, highlighting its potential as a flexible financial tool and noting its evolution influenced by miners and liquidity platforms like Deribit. He points to challenges such as low-quality assets and regulatory complexities, while anticipating growth through the integration of higher quality real-world assets. Additionally, Forster emphasizes the importance of custodians in trading and the need for a comprehensive strategy to enhance on-chain options liquidity as the market matures.

Nick Forster from Derive discusses the early days of crypto options trading, emphasizing their role as a flexible financial tool in an on-chain financial system. He notes that options gained traction as miners used them to hedge risks, with platforms like Deribit emerging to attract liquidity. The development of crypto options markets has been shaped by structural traders and institutional players, although challenges such as low-quality assets and short-term trading behaviors persist. Forster anticipates that the introduction of higher quality and real-world assets on-chain will drive future growth.

Derive operates independently from Synthetix and utilizes the derived chain, an L2 app chain. Initial attempts to create an Automated Market Maker (AMM) for options faced challenges due to high gas fees, leading to a transition to an app chain with an off-chain matching engine in early 2023. This new structure aims to support complex derivatives while addressing liquidity and interoperability challenges. The anticipated "super chain" for liquidity aggregation has not yet materialized due to technical difficulties.

Forster highlights competition with OTC desks and centralized exchanges, noting a collaborative relationship with OTC desks that has attracted large takers. He discusses the complexities faced by potential users transitioning from OTC desks to crypto options, particularly regarding integration with real-world scenarios. The future of lending in crypto is shifting towards reducing intermediaries, although regulatory complexities and smart contract intricacies pose challenges.

Concerns about custody remain significant for firms entering options contracts, despite decreasing barriers to on-chain trading. Hyperliquid has facilitated on-chain trading and launched hyperliquid options, allowing funds to be held on their platform while ensuring bankruptcy protection. The drive chain focuses on verifiable margining and cross-asset collateral, although integration challenges affect the speed of new feature launches.

The popularity of perpetual contracts among retail traders is noted, with a discussion on whether options can be simplified for retail use. Despite the rise of perps, options are expected to maintain a substantial market share due to their unique advantages. The conversation critiques the notion that the market is moving entirely towards perps, emphasizing the distinct roles of options and perps.

Retail psychology is highlighted, with many investors believing they possess an edge in crypto trading. The revenue models of platforms like Robinhood and Citadel reveal significant profits from options trading, raising questions about profit potential in crypto protocols. Deribit currently dominates the off-chain crypto options market, holding a significant share of the on-chain market as well.

The challenges posed by iBit's cash settlement model are acknowledged, with Deribit retaining a substantial market portion despite increasing competition. The motivation behind building perpetual contracts alongside options is discussed, emphasizing their necessity for facilitating liquid options markets. The absence of prime brokerage in crypto complicates position management, with expectations for a solution to emerge in the near future.

Forster addresses the complexities of trading firms and custodians, emphasizing the necessity of custodians in trading. He contrasts traditional finance with crypto, noting that if crypto succeeds, liquidity could shift from banks to individuals. The regulatory landscape is also discussed, with a focus on the need for a comprehensive strategy to enhance options liquidity on-chain.

Future plans include exploring real-world assets and the demand for algorithmic self-custodial structured products. Forster emphasizes the importance of composability with other chains for tokenized strategies and governance within the derived token system, reflecting a community focused on accountability and meaningful governance. He concludes that the crypto options market is still in its early stages, with potential for growth as education and technology improve.

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