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AT THE EDGE OF THE CLIFF

Saturday, 15 November 2025 · 3 min read · Listen to the episode ↗

Patrick Ciresna and Kevin Muir discuss market vulnerabilities, particularly highlighting concerns around a potential AI bubble and a looming market correction as the S&P attempts to breach key support levels. They note the influence of NVIDIA's earnings and options expiration on market movements. Additionally, the cryptocurrency landscape shows increasing signs of vulnerability, with lower highs and lows indicating potential instability amid broader economic shifts. Overall, the discussion underscores critical market dynamics that reflect risks in both AI and crypto sectors.

Patrick Ciresna and Kevin Muir discuss the market's current state, focusing on the S&P's attempts to break below the 50-day moving average, a critical indicator for major stocks. They express concerns about the AI bubble and the potential for a market correction, noting that a 5% decline is overdue, marking the longest period without such corrections since April 2020. Historical data indicates that a legitimate close below the 50-day moving average could trigger significant selling pressure.

They anticipate a market sell-off, particularly after NVIDIA's earnings and the upcoming options expiration, identifying key levels to watch, including a potential drop to 6,200. Ciresna is open to a buy-on-dip correction but emphasizes the high probability of a correction given current vulnerabilities. They highlight the deterioration of market breadth, with only 44% of S&P 500 stocks above their 50-day moving averages, down from 85% after the April rally, raising concerns about the health of the current bull market.

The MAG 7's rally has significantly boosted the S&P, but recent price movements suggest a potential topping formation. The financial sector shows signs of a topping pattern, with crucial support levels that, if breached, could signal further trouble. The junk bond market is also under scrutiny, as significant market corrections often coincide with breakdowns in high-yield bonds. Both financials and high-yield bonds are close to triggering sell signals.

NVIDIA's upcoming earnings are viewed as pivotal, with high expectations that could lead to negative market reactions if guidance falls short. Current implied volatility for NVIDIA's earnings is at 67%, indicating a significant expected move. The timing of options expiration alongside NVIDIA's earnings could create a vulnerable moment in late November.

Concerns about market consensus suggest that the prevailing belief in a year-end rally could lead to a correction, as history shows that when the majority positions in one direction, it often results in a downturn. Small caps have shown signs of deterioration, closing below their 50-day moving averages, indicating a break in momentum. The equal weight S&P 500 mirrors this trend, suggesting a market that has stalled near its highs.

Current market dynamics evoke comparisons to the late 1990s, where the NASDAQ surged while the S&P 500 remained flat. The dollar is seen as a potential buy on dips, with a possible rally during a risk-off cycle. The discussion also touches on the influence of fixed income volatility buyers and the recent increase in buying volatility.

Concerns about a potential AI bubble burst are raised, alongside critiques of fiscal policy and its impact on the stock market. Historical market behavior during midterms is noted, with significant declines often occurring during these periods. The conversation shifts to crypto, which is experiencing lower highs and lows, indicating market vulnerability.

Gold's importance is highlighted, with expectations of further corrections before reaching new highs, while maintaining a long-term bullish outlook. Silver's recent sell-off raises concerns about a potential double top, with critical support at the $50 level. Regarding oil, there is skepticism about breaking to lower lows despite recent sell-offs, emphasizing the randomness of short-term trading.

The discussion also covers uranium stocks, noting a breakdown in this sector and increased implied volatility. They speculate that uranium prices could fluctuate widely, connecting uranium stocks to the AI narrative. The South Korean index, the Kospi, is emphasized for its importance in the AI sector, with major companies like Samsung and Hynix. The Kospi's impressive rally could indicate a burst of the AI bubble, and an investment strategy of going long on QQQ while shorting the South Korean index is suggested, anticipating that QQQ will outperform in an upswing.

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